Hmm, I don't see Ireland in the graphs. In my experience, the salaries there are quite high, while cost of living is high too, but I curious to see more data and how savings rates are compared with other countries.
I worked in the Portuguese market, based in Portugal and I think with a Portuguese salary (even with an IT salary) you cannot have savings of around 35%. Happy to discuss that with you in off.
Regarding the salary ranges, I agree that if you include benefits, bonuses and stock options, otherwise in Spain, Portugal, Italy, Scotland (there are more) is very difficult to get such high salaries.
A nice insight on European developers is the fact that Europeans have good social security (health and retirement) that is quite cheap in comparison to North American developers, if you do a quick math, I would say in Europe you would have a better quality of life (education, security, culture and so on).
I am curious about Switzerland tech scene, is the majority of consultancy companies? or banking? Do they accept remote workers? Can you work for a Swiss company without knowing french or german?
I agree with the fact that European devs technically need less savings than US ones, because we have better social security and welfare systems in general.
Hmm, I don't see Ireland in the graphs. In my experience, the salaries there are quite high, while cost of living is high too, but I curious to see more data and how savings rates are compared with other countries.
That's true actually. Tomorrow will check the data points for ireland here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iTNwiAQ0s5iD6RqI7B30uWqQ8wNJqRnmHvxo5zRffu8/edit?gid=603717461#gid=603717461 you can check it too in the meantime. to apply filters click on Data -> Create Filter View
Great blog and article too.
I worked in the Portuguese market, based in Portugal and I think with a Portuguese salary (even with an IT salary) you cannot have savings of around 35%. Happy to discuss that with you in off.
Regarding the salary ranges, I agree that if you include benefits, bonuses and stock options, otherwise in Spain, Portugal, Italy, Scotland (there are more) is very difficult to get such high salaries.
A nice insight on European developers is the fact that Europeans have good social security (health and retirement) that is quite cheap in comparison to North American developers, if you do a quick math, I would say in Europe you would have a better quality of life (education, security, culture and so on).
I am curious about Switzerland tech scene, is the majority of consultancy companies? or banking? Do they accept remote workers? Can you work for a Swiss company without knowing french or german?
Thank you for your comment.
The saving rates for people in Portugal in https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iTNwiAQ0s5iD6RqI7B30uWqQ8wNJqRnmHvxo5zRffu8/edit?gid=603717461#gid=603717461 can be influenced by the fact that some of these devs work for remote companies at higher salary ranges. You can double check that yourself by doing a research on the document and filtering for entries in portugal.
I agree with the fact that European devs technically need less savings than US ones, because we have better social security and welfare systems in general.
Regarding Switzerland, you might want to check out this article https://www.theeuropeanengineer.com/p/switzerland-for-software-engineers that goes deeper on the topic.